Nuance, Weaponized Refrigerators, Kerry, and Snopes

epa03553719 Democratic Senator from Massachusetts John Kerry testifies during his nomination hearing to be the next US Secretary of State, in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, USA, 24 January 2013.  EPA/JIM LO SCALZO


On our last live show, Marty and I alluded to John “Nuance” Kerry, our intrepid SecState, saying that air conditioners and refrigerators (or, more specifically, the Hydrofluorocarbons that they emit) are of equal danger to the US as Isis.  Snopes, the worst fact-checking website on the internet, takes issue with that statement.  From the Snopes rebut:

Secretary Kerry did not say that “refrigerators and air conditioners are as dangerous as ISIS,” nor did he mention air conditioners in conjunction with the subject of terrorism. What he did was attempt to inspire a group of bureaucrats and scientists who were about to embark on reshaping an environmental treaty in an effort to curb climate change, exhorting them to recognize that their efforts were of “equal importance” with the battle against terrorism because their work “has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself”:

As the Washington Free Beacon reported, though, Kerry definitely DID equate the threat of ISIS to the threat of HFC’s.  In other words, Snopes is full of nuance, like Secretary Kerry.  If you say two things are equal, then you are saying that they are as good, or bad, as each other.  Here is Kerry’s exact quote, from the Free Beacon.

“As we were working together on the challenge of [ISIS] and terrorism,” Kerry said. “It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”


“The use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing,” Kerry said. “Already, the HFCs use in refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is. It’s the equivalent to emissions from nearly 300 coal-fired power plants every single year.”

So, if combating ISIS and combating HFC’s are two equally important things, then aren’t the dangers equal, as well?  I don’t think that requires a whole lot of nuance to understand; do y’all?

Here’s a dose of sanity for y’all.  I wish John Kerry would see it, but that is about as likely as Hillary Clinton forking over another 30,000 emails.